Interview with Jwala Singh(Heads JTMM)

January 21, 2007 at 7:06 am 35 comments

Interview with Nagendra Pasman alias Jwala Singh, who heads the Janatantrik Terai Mukti Morcha (Jwala Singh). The interview was taken by INSEC District Representative Devraj Pokhrel with the help of Sunil Kumar Shah, the president of People Upliftment Centre, Lahan (January 14) 

Nagendra Pasman aka Jwala Singh, 42, hails from Siraha Municipality-7. He began his political career as the Siraha district secretary of Samyukta Janmorcha Nepal in 2050 BS. He became vice-president of Federation of Nepalese Journalists, Siraha branch for two tenures and reporter of Janadesh weekly. He later joined CPN (Maoist) through Madheshi Rastriya Mukti Morcha (Madheshi National Liberation Front) on 2058 BS as central member. He left the Maoists on 2062 BS to join the Jantantrik Terai Mukti Morcha (JTMM) led by Jay Krishna Goit and worked as in-charge of eastern military command. On 2063, he issued a press statement informing about his nomination as president through the first General Assembly of JTMM and that coordinator of JTMM, Jay Krishna Goit, was placed as the honorary leader of the party. 

Q: Why did you break up with the Maoists? What were the differences between you and Maoist? Were you of the conclusion that there was caste domination insideMaoist party? 

Jwala: Thanks for your question. We joined Maoist party believing it was a scientific party, was a Marxist party. We performed all our duties honestly as per the party policy and direction from the party. But caste domination persisted inside the party. We used to send people of our areas to the People’s Liberation Army but they would be bothered unnecessarily. There was discrimination among the Pahade (hilly area people) and Madheshi (terrain area people). We were unsatisfied with such abhorrence of caste inside a Marxist party, a scientific party. We said that since we have Madheshi fighters inside the Maoist party, our demands should also be addressed and the Maoist party’s vision for Madhesh should be clear. 

Out of 24.6-million population of the country, Madheshi count for 14 millions. Therefore, we put forward proposals that a separated command should be established in the Terai and the leadership be given to Madheshi people. Our demand was that Madheshi should be the in-charge and a Madheshi regiment should also be established. But some responsible friends of the Maoist party termed it dangerous to establish a Madheshi regiment in Terai area. Their opinion that establishing Madheshi army would pose threat to Pahade friends was discriminating. 

This is why we could not walk together. Maoist party could not keep its clear view on us, could not satisfy us, as a result we separated from the party. Caste discrimination existing inside the Maoist party should also come out clearly. 

I would like to give an example, very recently Maoist chairman Prachanda, made statement that police posts in the Terai should be re-instated quickly with the help of the government but would do the same in the hilly area later. We are serious on this issue too. 

Q: Even some political leaders of Madheshi origin have been criticizing that your armed struggle, rather being against state or government, is targeted against certain community. A press statement was also issued in this regard some times back. Could you tell something about your struggle? 

Jwala: Our struggle is targeted against singular community state. Since 238 years, this state is doing injustice, suppressing and ruling the Madheshi people. Therefore, our struggle is not targeted against the Pahadi people. Our struggle is against the regulators of the Pahade state. But we are being misinterpreted. There I would like to request through your organization that, we might have committed some small mistakes in the past but our struggle is clearly against the state. We are fighting against the state for our rights. 

Q: But you are accused of harassing individuals, terrorizing a targeted community? 

Jwala: See, our revolution was suppressed by the Rana regime also. Dr. Rabindra Thakur, who raised the question of Madhesh during Panchayat regime, was murdered. Rammani Mishra fared the same fate. 

After the Janandolan of 2046 BS, democracy was established in the country but our co-fighter Deb Narayan Yadav was also killed. Suraj Mahato, who was known as red star of Terai, was also killed. In this way, the Pahadi government has killed our brave fighters. No media gave priority to this. 

We do not have policy to kill and abduct innocent Pahade. We capture those persons who are involved on abetting arrest of our cadres, who are ruling, suppressing us, the Madheshi people in Terai. We charge fine after capturing them. We do not target whole of Pahade community. 

Q: What are your issues/demands? 

Jwala: We have nine-point demands. It has been recently publicized through a press statement. 

Our demands are that Terai should be declared an independent state; there should be proportionate participation by determining constituencies on the basis of population; all the police, army and administration in the Terai should be evacuated and Madheshi people should be posted there; Population census should be conducted in Terai in the coordination of Madheshi; all the revenue collected from Terai should be spent for the development of Terai; all the Madheshi killed by state and Maoists should be declared martyrs and rupees 1.5 million should be provided as compensation; citizenship should be issued from the central to district level in coordination of Madheshi; the land of Madheshi captured by Maoists should be given back and Maoists should stop their donation drive and tax collection in Terai. 

We have put our demand very clearly to the government. We appeal human rights organizations, media persons and representative of civil society to draw the attention of the government towards our demands. 

Q: What is the main problem of Madhesh? Is it the diversity in economic, social, cultural political spheres or racial? 

Jwala: Good question. There are three main issues in the Nepal-occupied Terai. The first is the suppression by authoritarian Pahadi sectarian state and colonial exploitation of Madhesh and Madheshi. Second is class difference in the Terai and third is difference among different caste groups. We want to relieve the Terai from the colonial exploitation. Freedom of our community will go along with it. We have forwarded the fundamental issue of intra-Terai communities. We don’t blame the Pahadi community for such exploitation. It was inflicted by the Pahadi state mechanism.

Q: The voice on need for dialogue is getting strength. It is said that many ministers are also calling for the dialogue. On what condition would you be ready to come to the table? 

Jwala: The government ministers don’t follow a uniform stance. Like, Deputy Prime Minister Amik Sherchan was saying the government would talk with Goit and not with Jwala Singh. Next day, home minister says there was no such thing but help of the political parties would be taken. Some have even said that Jwala Singh should be suppressed and annihilated with the use of military power. We are aware of this type of duality. So, the primary condition for the dialogue with the government should an environment of trust. 

Q: What the difference between JTMM (Jwala Singh) and other parties like Nepal Sadbhawana Party (Anandi Devi), Madheshi People’s Rights Forum and Pro-Maoist Madheshi Mukti Morcha (MMM) advocating for the Terai people? Can’t all such group have a univocal peaceful stand towards solving the problem? 

Jwala: See, prominent persons like Dr Rabindra Thakur, Dev Narayan Yadav and Suraj Mahato, who joined the peaceful path, were murdered. But, in the 21st century, no one has paid and will pay attention to peaceful demands. Our friends have been raising the issues in peaceful manner for long. Who responded to those demands? No one. That is why are compelled to take up the arms. We feel that the Pahadi government is heeding after we launched armed struggle. As far as the issue of Madheshi that other parties are raising, we take them as co-campaigners. 

Q: The government is dispatching teams in villages to distribute the citizenship certificate from mid-January. What is your stand on that? 

Jwala: This is very important and serious issue. To take the citizenship certificate signed by Pahadi people is to accept their rule. So, the Citizenship Distribution Team should not have any Pahadi people. We won’t pose any obstacle to the CDT comprised of Terai people. 

Q: Your organisation does not seem to adhering to Human rights and international humanitarian laws? 

Jwala: I come from a press background and am in constant contact with human rights defenders so JTMM (Jwala Singh) is serious about these things. We abide by human rights land Geneva Conventions. All the committees have been asked to respect human rights. 

Q: To sum up, do you have anything to say through inseconline? 

Jwala: We would like to thank you and INSEC for publishing our stands and demands through inseconline to the people.

 

Source::http://www.inseconline.org/interview/Interview.pdf?newsid=53

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35 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Sambhu Sah  |  January 21, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Jwala Singh ji Namaskar,
    The intervies that you have given is quite appreciable. Your demand is what every loyala Madhesi dreams. We are with you so please move ahead with your devasive pace. If possible please mail reply me in this mail id:
    u2avishek@rediffmail.com

    Jai Madhes!!!!!!!

  • 2. Rakesh Mishra  |  January 24, 2007 at 3:48 am

    Jwala singhjee and Publisher
    Who is dr. Rabindra Thakur….If I am not mistaken…you are talking about Raghunath Thakur, who wrote the book named” Partantra Madhesh kikahani” and noted historian and philosopher Rahul Sankritayan wrote “bhumika” of that book….I am curious but I want to know…will u enlighten me.

  • 3. Diwaker Jha  |  January 25, 2007 at 12:01 am

    Jwala Singh ji,

    It was good to hear u !, ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    ………………………………………………………………………………………….
    ……………………………………………………………………………waiting !
    As It is Federal Autonomy in madhesh. See, How will we Make this ”Janakpur” Visible from Moon. Its a Committment.!

  • 4. sanjaya Gupta  |  February 19, 2007 at 4:50 pm

    Mr jwala singh:

    I am from tarai (like u ) .
    You are trying to grab an opportunity to popularize urself.You are selfish and not fighting for Madesh.Your demands are paranoid, unreasonable ( independent state , Citizenship distribution).You are the kind of person who is a disgrace.We don’t support you.You rest in peace.

  • 5. shyam sundar shah  |  March 31, 2007 at 3:20 pm

    i m student of pulchwk engineering campus i am always think about the behabior of pahadi sosiety . i want to member of ur party

  • 6. narayan  |  July 19, 2007 at 12:30 am

    We all regret in that a Nepalese mother gave birth to a “Rakchhyas” like you, Jwala Singh.
    I heard your interview in BBC today and felt like you are the most stupid person in Nepal

  • 8. Falcon  |  July 19, 2007 at 6:04 am

    Jwala singh ji
    Namaste

    Your Interview at bbc was very catchy.
    you are doing a great and daring job. Thank you for fighting for our liberation.
    My suggestion and request to you is to make the rebellion battle more organised. There should be a vast publicity to madheshi public of this fight o that those who want to join you directly or indirectly can help you .
    we are with you .
    thank you .Great job!

  • 9. nage  |  July 19, 2007 at 9:37 am

    Thanks Jwala singh for making this effor for entire community … we need you for our liberation .. we shown engough friendship to seek our identity for this goverment ,, but hey want weapon in our hand ,, they told us to fight and we will fight for our tarai ..
    We will unit once and forever and establish freedom in tarai where everyone can live happy with there identity of respect.

    Great job

  • 10. Kailash Badu  |  July 19, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    I wonder how some one as stupid and senseless as you can still can still fool around the people. You are just playing with Madhesi’s sentiments. come off it! you scoundrel . you’ll face a horrible end.

  • 11. slok  |  July 19, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    ur comments are hypocritical…if u would only resolve ur problems through peacful means……will peace ever come in this country..i feel sorry for u …u egotistical s-o-b…may god have mercy on ur soul…..

  • 12. binod  |  July 20, 2007 at 2:21 am

    jawala ji
    namaste
    you are real madhesi son.
    i want to join u .
    JAI MADHESH

  • 13. khem raj silwal  |  July 23, 2007 at 10:38 am

    you come to open politics. go to the people otherwise you may disappear

  • 14. pramod pandey  |  August 6, 2007 at 7:24 am

    Respected jawalasingh ji!
    I think Forest ministor Matrika Yadav and Binod Upadhaya forget the Ritik Roshan Kand when pahadiya attack all madhesis in Kathmandu,Pokhara and other cities in the remour case, I was also attacted, When an indian comment on Nepal they attact on madhesi, They have not to brave to talk Indian , near future you see, pahadiya beat the family of Matrika yadav and other Maiost leaders family because they look like FORUM,JAWALA SINGH GROUP and others and they come to know what they are !
    Jai matribhoomi
    jai madhesh!

  • 15. dayashankar upadhya  |  August 6, 2007 at 7:41 am

    Jawalasing ji !
    You are really very brave and good leader of madhesi !
    your thought is very nice, we madhesi are not feeling freedom,we always feel that we live in others country , they rule on us on religion basis ,
    Actually the proper Pahadiya Nepali are not so negative with madhesi people the migrated pahadiya are very worse, like Bermaili, migrate from Asam , Migrate from Darjelling , thease people make dirty politics in india and now in nepal , it is required to kill their bad behaviour if not possible KILL ALLl MIGRATED PAHADIYA , because they live anywhere they are nepali and we live in Nepal from long time we we are not nepali ? why?
    jai matribhomi jai madhesh

  • 16. pramila pandey  |  August 6, 2007 at 7:44 am

    Jawalasingh ji !
    You are hero of Madhesh !
    Pahadiya will dominate you
    We always dominated
    Fight and finish them
    Tarai is ours we live here, we rule here
    pahadiya should get lost
    Jai MADHESH !

  • 17. pawan tiwari  |  August 6, 2007 at 7:51 am

    JAWALA SINGH JI !
    NAMASKAR
    YOU ARE REAL BRAVE MADHESI
    WE PROUD ON YOU
    YOU PLEASE CALL US
    WE ARE READY TO DIE AND KILL FOR FREEDOM OF MADHESH
    WE NEED YOUR COMMAND
    DONT BE FEAR WITH PAHADI
    WE ARE WITH YOU
    JAI MATRIBHOOMI JAI MATRIBHOOMI
    JAI MATRIBHOOMI JAI MATRIBHOOMI

  • 18. basnet  |  August 6, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    hey! do u think we as nepali not madhesi want to use weapon against you jantantrik morchha to regain the right to live in terai region in nepal. if u guys want it u r ready to blow u friggin’ indian origin out of nepal……. do u think u can fight that gesture

  • 19. bhola  |  August 7, 2007 at 3:26 am

    All the hell.What Jawala think.If we want we can hold him and kill him with in no time.Stop Killing people in terai otherwise we have already taken arms.
    Jawala you ISI agent dont try to act as Madeshi.You are with ISI we know that and your reality is that.Be care ful you will be burried in our soil

  • 20. biswas  |  August 7, 2007 at 7:40 am

    Nagendra Paswan,
    A Pahade boy 16 year old was killed after taking out of the Bus in Koshi Barage by your cadre. And there are lots of evidences, that is being targeted to pahade. Pahade is not a problems. problems is Madhesi themselves. I am in Australia. There are aborginal people and thier condition is so bad. But government putting lots of effort on them, there is lots of reservation on them but the condition is the same so, problem is not Pahade and Madhese bu the problems is you Madhese are jealous with Pahade. Its natural process one who is capable rules. Even many madhese are teacher in pahad and married to pahde girls and settle. Those madhese teacher are capable in teaching and doing their job but that doesnt mean that no pahade are there to teach. All problems of dacoits and so on came from Madhes may be adjoining Bihar and UP state. But if you go to pahad there is no such threat to anyone. So this is not time to separate the ethnicity, this is time of co-existance. lets live together. and start hating bloody Morcha in Terai.

  • 21. kunal  |  September 5, 2007 at 7:02 am

    “JWALA SINGH I WANT TO KILL YOU”— EVEN IF YOU BECOME KING OR PRESIDENT OR PRIME MINISTER OF NEPAL, YOU WILL COME TO PUBLIC LIFE AND I AM WAITING FOR THAT MOMENT… MY ONLY DESIRE IN LIFE NOW IS TO SEE YOU BLEED TO DEATH…LONG LIVE NEPAL..LONG LIVE PAHADEY AND MADHESI….HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT before i get TO KILL YOU?

  • 22. kishor  |  November 29, 2007 at 7:18 am

    jai MADHESH
    NAMSAKAR
    ME AAP KI KADR KARTA HU AAP AAPNE WORK YA YUD ME SAFAL HO ME DUAA KARTA HU.BAKI HAM SAB MADHESI LOG AAP KE SATH HAI.
    SHOLA
    JANAKPUR

  • 23. BISHESH  |  June 26, 2008 at 3:17 am

    JWALA TARAI SE PAHADIA KO HATADO HAM PAHAD ME MADHESI KO NAI CHODENGE
    JAI NEPAL

  • 24. Raj  |  October 9, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Namaste jawala singh ji,keep it up.If u need support then just reply me,i m alway there for u and ur party.Thank’s for raising the voice of madhesh.

  • 25. wellwisher  |  October 11, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Hello Jawala ji, Goit ji and all other armed groups !!!!!!!!!

    My request to all armed groups is to abandon the violence.
    I am from Terai. I am a Madhesi. I support the cause of
    Madhesi, but I do not support killing of anybody either
    PAHADE or MADHESI. See our strugle is with the mindset
    of STATE. We have no enemity with common people of
    any origin.
    Please learn from peaceful method adopted by MJF and see
    they have achieved something for MADHESH during a small
    time period.
    Your cadres are not showing any political character. I have seen them snatching MOTORBOKE from commener(MADHESI/PAHADE). Because of such activity
    you are pushing Madhes to backward not forward.

  • 26. Munna  |  January 20, 2009 at 7:00 am

    Jwala ji,
    Jay Madhesh !
    i am a regular follower of madheshi movement of all organization.i am confused here because i coulnot understand the reason of opening of new party in terai daily by daily. What do you think is is consipiracy of pahadiya community to weaken the madhesh and divert the attention of madhesh movement towards something else, dont you think they are trying to tarnish the character of madhesh peoply. i have a request to you to please try to mobilize all force of terai who are working independly and send a strong message of unity of madheshi peole.

  • 27. Kunal kapoor  |  April 24, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Jai Nepal
    Its nice to hear from you that you are not killing people from pahadi origin but its ridiculous to create violence. In own country first of all we have to think that we are Nepali not Pahadi Madeshi or ….
    So by killing your enemies and innocent people and by creating violence, you will never achieve your goal, because try to see your heart and your people no one wants violence…..

    so please stop this humiliating human rights and try to keep peace within yourself..
    Jai nepal/ Jai madhesh

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  • 29. s.kumar  |  August 5, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    hi rispected jwala singh i wod like to thans for you so you are a killing a pahadiya rabbis peaple

  • 30. s.kumar  |  August 5, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    adarniy jwala singh ji namska. Mai aapki bahut ijjat ktrtahu kyo ki aap madhesi ke liye aawaj uthaye aur jang kar qahehai par kuchh log bpki sangathan ki nam ko badnam kar rahehai aap kirpya es bat par dhyan de. Aapka subhchintak

  • 31. B K Verma  |  August 27, 2010 at 6:35 am

    Madhesh was not a part of Nepal. unfortunately it became a part of nepal and ita owner that is Madheshis became nepali. Madhes should be returned to Madheshis. Madhesh is an independent territory. Madhesh should be liberated from nepal.

  • 32. durga singh  |  November 26, 2010 at 10:04 am

    hei jwala,u r not the hero n liberation giver to madhesi,u r only the dacoit n bad for madhesh n whole nepal.u r doing job in the selfishness of indians not for liberation of madheshi.indians like to be spread in terain,at last they finish all madhesh n add into india, r making u to go on battle as an anty pahade.
    this will never give u the good result all the pure nepali who likes to see unity between pahade-madesi,will kill u if u dont stop this armed violence

  • 33. Dilip kumar sada (musahar)  |  November 28, 2010 at 4:46 am

    Namskar nagendar paswan ji.be continiu we with you forever.Single stick can broken everyone but bundle of stick can not be broken anyone you are great powerfull son of madhesi and untouchabe community

  • 34. DR.PREM CHANDRA THAKUR  |  March 23, 2011 at 8:58 am

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